>>6164>It's rare to see a gay game that isn't fucking straight up porn.
That's true but still where is the point?
When you hear or see VN then you expect porn, of course. And some are actually well written and provide both good story and smex. Language might be a barrier though since the best are in Japanese.
Honestly, If I want to enjoy a good story with good characters without the "obligatory" sex/porn then I just go read a book.
Believe me there's plenty of good ones out there!
Therefore, a VN that is not an Eroge? Waste of time and money