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 No.5[Last 50 Posts]

Hello all~ A new chinese bara rpg maker game just released today. For those who are interested feel free to download the game and try it out~
Link:http://pan.baidu.com/s/1mgndkTU
DL password: ecbb
Extract password: Konohanaya

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all credits go to the artist HANA: pixiv(10648832)
To help the community understand what's going on with the story. I will slowly post something I know for those who are interested.

Kevin(you, the player)
He is a common university student.
From his father's recommendation, he started to play the game "The End of Dreams".
His job is unknown.
He can equip any equipment you can find in the games. (And will learn both skill attacks or Magic spells.)
According to the story he is summoned to the world of End of Dreams as the "Chosen One" to save the world.
He is an ordinary hero like any other story.

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Gientovwel:
He acts as a guide to player in the game of End of Dreams.
He is a wizard.(He learns ice/lightning/debuff spells)
Although he knows everything about this world, he is super weak in battle. No one can understand how can he survive all this time.

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Scabbard:
A character the player meets in the mercenary camp.
He is a warrior who can double wield weapons.(He gets no spells but some skills like songs/sword attacks.)
He is a very good warrior but it seems that he worked in some sort of "Servicing" business too.
He has a complicated past, also he has a sword inside of him.

 No.10

I also reuploaded to Mega for those who don't want to go through the slow traffic from Baidu.
http://tinyurl.com/nn6vtcd

 No.11

i really wish there was a japanese version so i could at least partially understand this lol

 No.12

Nice game. keep it up

 No.13

It took me about 2 hours to finish it. There were a couple tricky parts but I was able to get through it just fine. And of course, the last lewd scene was the best one. Really high quality game.

 No.14

Just a little reminder for those who play it. Some option through out the game will change the affection rating of the characters also branches into different scenes. So choose carefully or save frequently.
In this version of End of Dreams there are a few events you should save before you proceed.

1. Before you fight the boss in the second map(the map after the tutorial map…). Make sure you save because after the boss fight you would be brought to town and also to the inn of the town. Leaving you no chance to save before a branch event where you choose to peek Scabbard having sex with inn owner or go back to your room and jack off Gientovwel.

2. Save before boss fight in bandit camp, because depending on how to touch the bandit leader's body it will either be a scene with underwear on or naked.(Just a note, there were supposed to have scene of Scab fucking the bandit leader…However Hana the author did not have enough time to put the CGs in.So try to wait and see if they will be added in later versions.)

3. Save before tower bosses. As there will be an option changing the affection rate of Scab or Gien.(First option is trust Scab and Gien will end up pissed. While the 2nd one Gien will be happy you trust him that you think Scab is suspicious too)

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 No.17

Just a few questions, haven't played it yet:
This game is entirely in Chinese, making it near impossible to understand a thing, right? Which means the only thing to get are CGs. That is such a bummer. What good are mere cg if you cannot understand the whole scene and well the story to begin with…
Is it made via RPG maker?

 No.18

>>17
Yep, it's made with RPG Maker VX Ace, so inserting a translation should be easy as pie.

 No.19

>>17
It's not actually that bad. If you do not understand anything they are saying, you can tell a thing or two from the gameplay.
Also the author seems really open minded. Probably someone who is super devoted come forward and ask for permission… Probably he will give a go for english translation.

 No.20

>>17

Used Translation Aggregrator with this game..
Seems to get better English translation compared to Japanese game XD

 No.21

anyone know a suitable extraction tool for rgss3a files?
i had one that could extract both standard and rgss2a, but has problem with the version3 somehow

 No.22

can ya play this in fullscreen?

 No.23

>>21
I have one somewhere on my HDD
I'll go find it, then extract the game's CG and upload it here

 No.24

>>23
Found it
https://i.pantsu.cat/xmseht.zip
Will upload the CG soon

 No.25

>>24
By the way, I found that the extraction tool extracts in the direction it's in. So if, for example, you want it to extract the files in the game's folder, you have to put it there

 No.27

All right, here's the CGs and some other misc stuff:
https://i.pantsu.cat/dnmqub.zip

 No.28

>>22
yes alt enter for fullscreen

 No.31

Just an update from the author, whoever is interested in translating this game can send a pm the author.(in HANA pixiv listed above or if you have weibo..http://weibo.com/u/5292514359?from=feed&loc=nickname#1443508282235)

 No.32

I could translate this from japanese, but probably not from chinese :( or if I did it would take ages and I would basically be editing machine translations

 No.33

i'm stuck at the door with the 2 guards it won't open

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>>33

This one?
U've decrypt all those tablet/stone?

 No.37

yeah all the ones that have shiny thing on them

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make sure u've counted 7 XD

 No.39

i've the same thing in that pic ^
I'm missing 1?

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checked this one?
Concealed behind the curtain?

 No.41

>>24
thank you very much for the decrypter, will help me a lot with other things!

 No.42

There is another tablet where you get from falling off the red magic circle side.(which brings you to the right side of the resting floor that is not accessible normally) Then when you walk down the stair you will get one more tablet waiting for you.

 No.44

Side Quests:
[s]
Give a hand to a manga artist:
A girl who stands next to the stairs wants you to look for 4 pages that were lost from her newest manga.
There pages are located in the inn, the general stores, the church and last the mercenary camp.
Giving her all 4 pages will grant you a skill book(which you can equip on the 2nd hand) of Ink attack.Which is a skill that uses no TP but can cause small damage+ blind effect on enemies.

Collecting slimes for the priest:
The priests of the church will ask you to give him 5 slime lubes.(To collect them you will have to go back to the map before the town and kill slimes for the drop.They drop randomly so it takes time.) Giving him 5 will grant you a skill book of Sticky slime.(All Enemies with 80% chance of Slow down for 5rounds)
[/s]

 No.45

this game seems to have exactly the same premise as ChinChin Quest…

>random pervy gay dude from the modern world gets magically transported to a fantasy world

>dude proceeds to molest/creep on every bara guy he stumbles across

does he get powered up for being a perv? lmao

 No.46

yea it is sort of a mix of any typical HRPG game with some story like SAO/.hack.

 No.47

>>45
Well, the first guy seems to be rather flirty towards him, instead of the opposite.

 No.48

Here is a summary of what happened in Chapter 1 so far. For those who don't mind reading and want to know what's going on in the story so far…
http://www.mediafire.com/view/zy1yc1k30sps6jh/EOD1story.txt

 No.49

>>40
How do you get to the 7th circle, it's in that room with red chest?

 No.50

>>49
In the floor with the "maze" or whatever-you-call-it puzzle, there's a second path, marked with the red hexagrams - it leads to the staircase that leads down to the room with the red chest.

 No.51

>>49
Try walk into the blue magic circle in the red route. It will bring you to a route going down to 1F and there is a tablet.

 No.52

>>48 thanks for sharing! hope for more guide cause i sucks without guide :(

 No.53

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do you know how to gain more power? cause i think i'm too weak to fight with these guys <have tried million times and still lost> :(

 No.54

>>53
Gien at lv 7 would learn a debuff skill Weapon Break(兵刃破坏)cast it twice you can hugely bring the attack down.
also lv16 would learn another debuff skill called Weakening(弱降术) which will break the def and Mdef down.
While Kevin saves mp for healing and try to use skills the remaining time.(20TP one) Scab can cast 剑舞·驭风 to get into counter mode(so whenever he is attacked the monster will get hit instead for 5 turns).You can buff attack too if you have 纷争之歌.

 No.55

>>53
The secret is to keep farming monsters for XP. Thankfully the game respawns monsters whenever you leave an area, so it's a fairly simple thing to do. Also, don't forget to upgrade your equipment and buy potions and such.

 No.56

>>53
Oh and I forgot, use the elf guy in green clothes' skill that is marked by a purple rune icon. It targets up to five enemies and puts them to sleep/prevents them from attacking. This should allow you to deal with one enemy at a time. Just make sure not to use other multi-target skills and spells like the mage guy's lightning spells or the protagonist's "V-slash" as I call it.

 No.57

>>56
>>54
>>55
thank you all!

 No.61

Did the author (Hana) mention when future chapters will be out/updates?

 No.62

>>61
There is no news about the future chapters yet. However, they are still working hard on them.(Once they are ready they will be released and I will post here to inform everyone.) Also try to keep your save files, as you can just keep on using them after the new versions are out.

 No.83

Guide for anyone who's stuck. Still a WIP; currently up to bandit hideout.

http://pastebin.com/acvQy7Hp

 No.84

>>27
I cannot connect to this site, is there any other site to download this file?
Thanks!

 No.88

Guide for Chapter 1 complete! If there is anything I missed, mention it in this thread, and I'll add it into the pastebin.

http://pastebin.com/acvQy7Hp

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 No.96

The next one is coming! I'm so excited right now!!!!

 No.97

>>88
Thank you. Your guide was really useful!

 No.98

>>95
Thank you very much!

 No.99

Is there a version of this that is unlocked. This way I could get access to it inside RPG Maker VX Ace? I would like to try to go thru and translate the simple stuff.

 No.101

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Anyone notice Scabbard is missing from the new poster?

And that woman is awfully familiar.

The girl in the portrait from the tower.

And Kevin's pants left leg is ripped…mmmm

 No.102

>>101
Instead we have more hot hunks ;)

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LOL I have the old version with the round belly Paeggivorm.
Anyway, in EP2 almost all the dateable guys are out.
Which includes a priest and a dragonewt(half dragon half human) warrior. You have to redownload the whole thing when EP2 is out and to continue playing it is as easy as copying all the saves to newer version.

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For those who are interested, I will post the rest of the Characters that will appear in EP2.

Kurucwach
-A priest who has been exiled by the church
-Expert in healing/support spells
-He has a super important mission in his life.
He knows all the dark secrets behind the prosperity of the church.
He is trying very hard in order to save one his senior (Senpai) priest.

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Paeggivorm
-A solo traveler who saved Kevin's team in the middle of their journey.
-He is a warrior
-He has rare red hair and golden eyes.
His point ears sort of giving out his identify as a beastman.
He doesn't seem to be bothered by all the discrimination /neglect he received as a beastman.
He is not any common beastman. There is something else about him is not known yet.

 No.107

Has it been out yet?

 No.108

>>107
It's still TBA now. I just post the new characters from ep2 in advance.

 No.109

>>108
Oh ok, thank you

 No.110

>>108
Do you know when the chapter 2 will be released?

 No.111

>>110
he literally answered your question in the post you replied to.

 No.112

out of curiosity , when did the chapter 1 came out ?

 No.113

>>112
September 27, 2015. HANA released the game for free in pixiv.

 No.137

aexiv here (writer of the guide up above somewhere)

Some news; I've communicated with HANA over pixiv, mainly relating my thanks and comments other people have made. He's glad that a lot of us enjoy the game.

He's also said that the next chapter will be released in a few months 'without pay', which I assume he means is 'free'. He mentions that all the studio members working on EoD are not professionals, so it can't be finished quickly. So it's not going to come out anytime sooner, and HANA apologises for the wait.

 No.138

>>137
What about the CGs? Is he going to eventually release the high-res versions of those too?

 No.139

>>138
I'll ask him.

In regards to an English version: HANA's made progress on a localised version of the game for the Western audience; the studio's found a 'net friend' who'll be translating most of the text.

He said that while a lot of the text can be translated without too much difficulty, some descriptive segments, especially the lewd scenes, are a bit harder to translate, and HANA said he wanted us to experience the 'original' script feeling. That means he's looking to get it localised as well as translated, so it isn't some cheap Engrish.

 No.140

the high-res CG pack is on hold because hana encountered some computer issue.

 No.142

>>10
Doyou have another way to get it I don't know how to operate it from Baidu and mega keeps messing up.

 No.145

Translation aggregator actually do a nice job as chinese seems easier to translate than japanese. The story is also a lot more deep than chinchin quest. It's SAO with less plot holes xD

 No.146

>>145
I'm trying to use it but I come across the "cant run app translator.dll" thing.
Never used it before and the error is not mentioned anywhere on their forums…

 No.147

Try to use Visual Novel Reader(set it for chinese>eng) if aggregator don't work . you should easily find tutorial on youtube. It's really easy to use.

 No.159

Any new information about chapter 2?

 No.165

Does anyone have another download link for this game? The link OP posted won't let me download.

 No.166

>>159
Patience my friend.
Things that are for free usually take longer to produce anyway.

 No.167

Wow. That was fun so far. I really wish I could send Hana some money for their hard work. I don't know if they could accept donations.

 No.174

i don't know how to download. Any help for this noob captains?

 No.176

>>174

>>10
Reading the thread for any mirror links is a good idea

 No.227

I really hope this gets translated since after trying it a bit, it was actually pretty fun to play. But I don't understand chinese, so.. annoying, heh.

 No.239

The CG pack for End of Dream 1.0 is just out. This will include the 3 CGs that didn't make it on time.(ScabbyxBandit Leader).
Will just leave them here, enjoy~
https://mega.nz/#!rM51GLgB

 No.240

>>239
decryption key please

 No.241

Oops my bad
key: !sbjHsFOTNAZh5B2DA6m3RcYl5nuAHhUW6XjP1ntED1M

 No.244

>>239
I saw it on pixiv and was very excited; turns out it was still the same size as the in-game CG. The extra sex scene with elf guy and bandit leader was nice though.

 No.253

>>244
You can try using http://waifu2x.udp.jp/ to upscale them

 No.254

>>253
OMFG that is witchcraft!

 No.284

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Yay there's fanart for it. Let's build a small fandom for the game~~ Thanks Gigan for this hot scenexD!!

 No.374

Can it be played on mac? :)

 No.375

>>374
Only through a virtual machine or similar software

 No.403

Anyone know how's the next chapter coming along?

 No.407

>>403
I think the team is being lazy for the moment. There are no special news for the game. (Except a small one being saves from the current version wont be able to carry over…They will provide us with saves for best options for Gian and Scab seperately.)

 No.410

>>407
I wouldn't just use the word lazy, at the very least the game is free and open to everyone to download. They have done way far better jobs than most of the mainstream artists!

 No.412

>>410
Em I dun mean lazy in a bad way. What I meant what they are taking their time!

 No.491

This is wonderful! Thanks to those who uploaded, mirrored and gave useful hints!

 No.557

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For those who are interested, Hana is starting new comic series which will be sold shortly in future called "Flower of the Universe". It is a story about an alien invasion that happens in a resource seeking spacecraft… the news so far is both physical version and digital version will be available. The circled 4 guys would be featured in chapter 1.

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 No.658

Still doesn't have any information about chapter 2?

 No.660

As the chapter 2 was announced in November.. You should wait around 4-5 months for the game.(From the experience of the time chapter 1 took since they announced it..)

 No.874

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Update: Progress is happening on Chapter 2. English translation of Chapter 1 is around halfway complete. The artist has a new pixiv due to the old one being removed: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=6663421

Have a Kuruc Wach teaser.

 No.875

>>874
umm who exactly are you?

 No.890

>>875
Must be the artist himself..?

 No.893

>>875
>>890

No I'm not the artists themselves. I'm just in contact with them through pixiv and outside chat.

 No.894

>>874
thanks for the update

 No.897

>>874
thank you! finally some new infos

 No.913

Can't wait to replay this once it's translated!

>>893

Do you know will Chapter 2 be in English day one, or will it be translated later like the first chapter?

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so far I only see this as an news update of the game…
No explanation. I will just leave this here~~

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 No.1030

where can i download the english version, and what is the author new site , the pixiv one doesn't exist as it seams to me

 No.1031

>>1030

It says "in checking" so maybe they're making final preparations before releasing it.

 No.1053

Guys! The version 1.2 is now available and it's free!!
https://konohanaya.booth.pm/items/214352?utm_source=pixivtouch&utm_medium=popboard&utm_campaign=popboard
Can't play it right now so give us some reviews quick!! >_<

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>>1053

This is just the update for v1.0 right.
It includes the Mountain Bandit scenes.. and slightly different battle screen/animation

 No.1055

How to set the correct language? mine are all boxes.

 No.1056

Does it even include the english translation or is this just an updated version of the game? 'cause I can't seem to find a way to change to it. I even tried adding few lines to the .ini file heh.

 No.1057

in the autohr's tumblr it says he is uploading the english 1.0 version ,so we have to wait a couple of hours

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 No.1059

>>1058
he probably still is uploading ,since the link saysno file attached

 No.1060

also just to my friends here…make sure download the game quick when it is available. As booth is located in japan, so I am sensing the game will be taken down or asked to be taken down because of the uncensored nature of the game.(so yea act quick when it's available.)

 No.1061

and it's available! go grab it!

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 No.1067

Oh my god…so much fun. Just great work!!! I really want to the red headed barbarian. PLEASE. :) I can't wait until chap 2!

 No.1068

Yeah, so much fun when you finally understand what the heck everyone is saying, haha. :P

 No.1069

is the non-english v1.2 including the new content??? whats the difference?

 No.1070

I just noticed that the options button is missing from the english version, I wanted to reduce the sound effects a bit.

 No.1071

The English version is in version 1.1 format. Chinese version 1.2 finished around the same time as the English translation, so it wasn't changed over. Part 2 of the English version will be most likely done with 1.2 settings, but will come later after Chinese Part 2.

 No.1072

>>1069
I did not play the English version. If you actually see the scene of Scab fucking the bandit leader(with CG and cum shot) then probably original 1.2 and the english 1.1 are the same.

 No.1073

>>1072

The english version is the same as the first chinese 1.1 except it has the Scabbard cutscenes, and names of places have been changed. 1.1 lacks the sounds options that affect different sound volume, and 1.2 also has a different UI for battle.

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>>1064

Have any of you guys selected a Waifu yet?

I wasn't interested in either of the companions but DAMN that Mercenary Captain got to me. I barely even noticed him before the end. Too bad he isn't a route option.

 No.1075

>>1074

Paeggivorm, can't wait! <3

 No.1076

It's been a very long time since I've last played an Eroge in English. Somehow it feels so weird and wrong altogether.
Isn't there maybe a Japanese version available too?

 No.1077

>>1074
I'm actually quite partial to Gein or whatever the blonde daddy you meet early on is named

>>1076
lol

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 No.1079

>>1064
So this is like a game but divided in chapters and each chapter is gonna be shared as different games but they are actually the same game in secession?

 No.1080

>>1079

This is something that I've been wondering a bit, progress wise. What happens to all our progress like extra items we've grinded, or few levels gained if each chapter is played as a separate game? I do remember that the author would provide us save files with maximum affection/relationship stat for each character, but still..

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 No.1084

>>1083
For those who just had a heart attack, this link is the same version as >>1064 not an update

 No.1085

>>1084
Got it, thanks for the info!

 No.1086

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>>1074
I'm waiting for Kuruc. <3

>>1080
I'm not sure how the game would be divided into chapters. But from what I know from using the same software Hana uses before, if the assets used from the previous chapters are still there on the next chapter, save transfer and continuation would work by just getting the save file from the old one and copying it to the correct folder in the next release. Kind of like releasing each chapter by adding more content to each one, therefore making the file size bigger each time and making save continuation possible.
But if Hana releases each update separately and removes the previous assets and chapters from the new one, I'm not sure.. :b

But I'm betting on the first one, since when I tinkered on the game files from the Chinese version before, I found the files for the next chapter inside. Like files for the other characters and such.
:D

 No.1087

>>1074
In the current version I like Scab the best. I like him in this version because he is more open to the player compare to Gien. Also the talk event with Scab is actually cute, if you let him know you saw him doing it he would gain points..

 No.1088

Hey everyone! I'm anbassoon, the translator for the English version of EoD. First of all, I want to thank all of you for the support and the patient wait for the translated version. Juggling school work and working on a passable translation took some time, and I apologise for that…I hope the translation is understandable and likeable! I actually started on the translation near the end of December, so it only took me almost 3 months to get it to you guys…

Secondly, I'll like to just put to rest some queries I've seen around here related to the game, as well as a couple points of my own. I can't say everything because 1. The game is still a work in progress and 2. I don't have access to everything, particularly much of the Chapter 2 data. I'll try my best though! If you guys find any translation issues/spelling/grammar mistakes, let me know and I'll fix it for the next release! (Even though the team did comb through the translation once I was done with it…)

 No.1089


SAVE FILES

Let's start with save files. While I was translating the first chapter, I was updated with new files that also held a lot of chapter 2 data inside it. Judging by that, as well as the fact that the save files actually do work between the two language versions, I'd say that we'll be releasing the new chapters as a whole game with previous chapters, meaning that each release will get larger and larger in size. Shi is correct in that regard…and also correct in getting Kuruc Wach's name correct (It's two separate names. Kuruc Wach, not Kurucwach).

The reason why the save files were at first said to not be carried over was because of the language difficulties. Much of the data in the Chinese version actually locks in many Chinese characters into the save file, particularly in character and skill names. That means that if you carried over the Chinese save file into the English version, yes, it would be playable, but all your character name and skills will be displayed as [][][][][][]…

On the flip side, the opposite works as well. Dragging your English save file over into the Chinese 1.2 version will show your character and skill names in English, while the rest of the data will be in Chinese. You can…passably play with the new HUD and settings in 1.2 if you like.

 No.1090


VERSION 1.2

Speaking of version 1.2, that's the next on the agenda. No doubt that when I receive the next batch of data to translate, it'll be with the version 1.2 code, so rest assured that the next likely translation of chapter 2 will be with the updated coding. The only real changes to 1.2 from 1.1 is the new battle look as well as the inclusion of the sound settings. The rest of the game remains unchanged.

 No.1091


LOCALIZATION DIFFERENCES

Being the sole translator basically meant I had free reins over how I could translate the text into something an English audience will understand and appreciate. That meant a lot of Chinese puns and jokes were lost to the wind, and in the same vein, I also changed much of the dialogue and namings. I had a lot of fun giving descriptions to items…maybe a bit too much fun.

For example, the tower you encounter in chapter 1 was originally (I mean in the very original version) translated to something similar to Tower of God (anyone else read that manwha?). I had translated that into Heaven's Tower until the next data batch came, and the team told me about their intentions to have multiple towers, with the first tower being named "Tower of Forest". Not particularly nice rolling of the tongue in English, is it? In Chinese, however, it suited very well, so I had to choose something that flowed with the idea of a 'special' tower situated in a forest. That's how the name "Perennial Tower" came into being.

Also, 10 virtual cookies for anyone who can grasp the references of the different floor names in the Perennial Tower. Without using Wikipedia.

What was probably the hardest to translate was the sex scenes. My god the Chinese love their descriptions! I think in one of the earlier ones, I was describing the blooming of a white flower with dripping sweet nectar in the cast of the full moon or something like that…Nope nope nope. I'm not ashamed to admit that I looked up the more raunchier side of gay novels and fiction to gain some…vocabulary in which to try to express the detailed visions the Chinese version gave. I think I did ok…considering I did, well, make myself um…well, aroused.

 No.1092


ADDITIONS

Some of the more keen-eyed players may have released some difference beyond just the translation between the two languages. I had adjusted some of the item drop rates to better cope with progression, particularly since I STILL died to the King Slime at the very end. A few changes to skills and NPCs also happened, as well as some additional items. The item you gain near the end after the events of the Perennial Tower was also of my creation. However, playing through again, I realised that the settings were a bit too…tame. The party could easily become overpowered far too quickly if the player knew how to abuse it. I'm not saying what it is to prevent the abuse, but it will be adjusted in the next release to something a lot more balanceable. There's not much I can do with the current version, but if you find yourself one-hitting the King Slime…you'll know why. Just try not to give into the temptation to abuse the exploit, because it'll ruin the game for you guys, ya?

 No.1093

THE FUTURE

The Chinese team is working on Chapter 2 right now. A lot of it has been completed already (Shi, you'll be glad about what's been completed already), However, most of the team are students/doing it for free, so progress won't be as fast as, say, a professional studio. In fact, HANA was doing evening classes the day the English version was being uploaded. So keep that in mind when you start getting impatient waiting for the next sex scene, ya?

As for the English version of chapter 2. By mutual agreement between me and HANA, I have decided to start on the translation AFTER the Chinese version has been released. One is to avoid spoilers for myself, since the only reason why I volunteered to translate was because I enjoyed the original version immensely and contacted HANA on pixiv. Two is that the team is constantly making changes to the game, so just to make sure it all goes smooth, they want me to translate a full version rather than a possibly bugged and error loaded code that will be replaced and have to be translated again.

Don't ask me for a timeframe because I don't know! It will likely be a few months (judging by the amount of CGs currently created) so just sit tight and wait.

That's all I wanted to say! Again, if you have any queries, ask here and I'll try my best to answer them. Happy playing everyone!

 No.1095

>>1091
>Perennial

like spring flowers?

 No.1097

>>1095

More so the longevity of plants associated as perennial, rather than specifically flowers

 No.1098

Would be nice if they revealed the ages of each husbando in their profiles.

 No.1100

>>1093
Welcome ambassoon you should have show up here! Thanks for the translation.
I think here is a good platform for players and fans to talk about the game or interact with each other. So you should totally be here since u got the translation project going.

(I have suggestion of having the character introduction images translated and add them to the package. So that players can learn a little about the characters before they start the game.)

well good luck on future translation and keep us up to date here!:)

 No.1102

>>1088
>>1089
>>1090
>>1091
>>1092
>>1093
Yay! Thanks for all the info, ambassoon. Can't wait for the next chapter!
Chapter 1 was fun, but even more so when you can finally understand the game. You did a fantastic job! I got fed up very quickly with opening the game and translating parts I was curious about when I was playing before.. So I was really ecstatic that someone was finally making an official translation. xD
… And yay again! <3 Kuruc
>>1091
Not really sure, but do the floor names have anything to do with Hinduism or something? :P
>>1100
Yes, I agree with Luke. The character intro images would be helpful in getting to know the characters. :D

Good luck with the translations, too! Thanks again! :D

 No.1105

I can't get past the bandit minigame. I've tried touching every where, but nothing.

 No.1106

>>1105
Did you tough his mouth and abs?

 No.1107

>>1106
>touch

 No.1129

Still nothing.

 No.1140

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>>1105
Hello.
It's pretty easy. You just have to touch areas that might arouse a person, really. :P
Here are pics of the touch points on the bandit during the Bandit Boss Scene..
Take note: They're spoilers, so only view them as a last resort.
:D

 No.1141

>>1140
It'd be nice if they used the actual mouse for this, considering plenty of mouse scripts exist for rpg maker

 No.1143

Nope. I've tried rubbing him, clicking him and nope, nada.
I'm using windows 10, so I don't know if that's the issue, but could anyone put up a save post this event please?

 No.1145

>>1143
you use the arrows and z in this mini-game

 No.1146

Didnt know that; thank you

 No.1148

>>1093
Hey! I just finished the game and I just want to say thank you so damn much for translating this game. And thanks the staffs and everyone who work on this. providing it for free too! I really appreciate all of you. Everything worked great for me and I had a nice fap. ;P If you guys are in need of fund, I wouldn't mind putting in support!

 No.1150

Is this available for Mac? (Sorry if stupid question)

 No.1154

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I'm just wondering, how do i get into full screen without having go all *flashing* on me? Basically, when I enter full screen mode, the entire game just flashes non-stop. Not sure if this pic is telling an error that is causing it however.

 No.1160

For Mac users this is how you play the game.
1. Go to http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/ and download the Winebottler.
2. Have the EoD game downloaded and ready.

3. Install the Winebottler software(simply open the dmg up and drag "Wine" and "WineBottler" into your Application folder.

4. Run Wine(An icon with a glass of wine will show up on the top right corner) and let it finish building it's filesystem for the first run.

5.Click the Wine icon and choose "Winetricks", check the boxes of the following items and click apply:
"corefonts"
"directx9"
"dsound"
"dmsynth"
"sound=coreaudio"
6. unzip the game you will find an exe file, open the exe. Choose "Run directly in …" and hit go. it will run the game installer you just choose any folder you would like the game install in.(Like C:/)

7.open file manager and locate the game's folder(the installer should create a folder called "TheEndofDreams(E)v1", open the folder and run the Game.exe

8.If you followed the above steps correctly the game should be running.

 No.1161

Holy hell that interrogation scene with Scabbard was so fucking hot

 No.1167

>>1160

Oh wow, thanks Luke! I'll be sure to spread the word that you CAN play it on Mac using WineBottler.

>>1154

There have been issues regarding the full-screen toggle. The team is trying to iron out the bugs, but it seems to be re-occurring (even I get the issue where my screen just goes black, even though I can hear the audio). I'll look into that particular error message, but it doesn't seem to impacting much otherwise on the game. Sorry about that.

 No.1170

>>1167
the translation was overall good, I only saw 2 errors, 1 blank square and a few awkward phrasing of the sentences
also, why the Adelle song?

 No.1174

>>1170

Thanks for the feedback! I'm not a professional translator; in fact, this was my first time doing a translation. If you can point out where the typos and blank square were, that would be helpful.

Also, that particular signpost had something similar in vein in the Chinese version; almost a love poem or song of some sorts. Since Adele pretty much dominated the scene when her song came out…yea. You'll find references to other stuff sprinkled throughout.

 No.1188

>>1174
i'll have to replay the game to pinpoint where the errors were

for how many years have you been studying Chinese? I'm almost one year in and still couldn't read much in the untranslated game

 No.1196

I come from a Chinese familial background, with my parents immigrating before I was born, so I am fluent in speaking and listening. Reading and writing is another whole issue, however…although it does come easier knowing how phrases and words sound. Suffice to say that even with my prior knowledge, translating, and probably more importantly, localizing the game, was a far tougher task than I first thought. It is quite rewarding…and daunting really…when you know your words and work is being circulated all over the world.

 No.1257

Is there a forum of this game to ask questions? I seem to be stuck. After the thief interrogation scene I can't return to town. The exit point just doesn't work.

 No.1258

Are you using the ladder?

 No.1259

>>1258
Holy shit, thanks. hadn't even noticed. Was trying to go back to town the way we came.

 No.1262

>>1196
Just finished playing. Very good job on the translation. Spotted one or two inconsistencies with Gien's name, who's sometimes Gientovwel and sometimes Gien Tovwel.

Also… foot-long cocks? Really? I chuckled but I'm not sure I find that detail sexy!

Is there some way to send all those involved some money?

 No.1272

>>1262
well it's a common trait in bara games to have humongus cocks, there are some that put an arm-long cocks, those impress me, scare me, and turn me on at the same time

 No.1323

does anyone have any information on when chapter 2 will be translated into English?

 No.1331

>>1323
Probably sometime after the original release of chapter2 in Chinese

 No.1335

>>1323

I will begin translation when the Chinese version comes out. Currently looking at a few months. It'll take me around 2 months or more to translate, from my past experience with chapter 1, so don't expect it to be out so fast.

 No.1337

Hi guys, I'll like to just give a quick update on a few issues with the game at the moment.

Going back through chapter 1, the team have found some bugs and essentially some coding which was not done properly, particularly in the English version. For example, the characters in the English version can go beyond the level 20 cap, which is what the Chinese version was capped at. This was a mistake and overlooked by the team on the final checks, so we apologize for that.

Secondly, there have been some data changes to the game in chapter 1. This involves things like skills and level ups, meaning that things would have been changed leading up to now. As a result, HANA recommends people to start over on a new save file for Chapter 2 when it comes out, if possible. The save state from Chapter 1 will still work but can cause problems with overlapping skills and items or even skip over entire chains. I'm really sorry for this everyone.

The team is approaching completion on the Chinese version of Chapter 2. So please be patient for a bit longer!

 No.1339

>>1337
Restart the whole chapter? Are you serious?
Well no problem here, as long as I got my handy dandy cheat engine for you know, speed hacks :P

 No.1341

>>1339
Hahaha that's what I do for every single rpg game I play

 No.1342

>>1339

Unfortunately, yes. I do apologize for it; as I said, the current save files WILL work, however, you could be missing skills or items depending on how far you have progressed or grinded. The current planned level cap for Chapter 2 is level 40, not 20 as was planned for Chapter 1.

Once I get a list of the possible changes, I will let people know on here. Then people can individually judge whether it is worth starting over. I'll be honest, there will be nerfs and buffs to certain items and abilities.

If it helps, I can make a guide for Chapter 1, although 8-bit Adonis did a pretty good tips and tricks guide - http://8-bitadonis.tumblr.com/post/141417845744/the-end-of-dreams-tips-tricks-spoilers.

Once again, I am sorry about this. Please accept our apologies for this mistake.

 No.1343

>>1342
I really don't mind replaying chapter one when chapter two get release. It will serve as a recap of the storyline.

Any hints on when will chpater 2 will get release??

 No.1367

I don't mind having to replay the previous chapter. It doesn't take that long anyway. :P

 No.1466

>>1342

Hey, this is Hours Left of 8-bit Adonis. Thanks for checking out the Tips & Tricks post I wrote, I hope there weren't any errors!

I just wanted to say that I really love this game, and to thank you for translating it. The whole team did an incredible job and I can't wait for the next chapter!

Do you use Tumblr often ambassoon? If you were interested, and it was cool with the rest of the game's team, I think it would be really cool if you had a small blog there were you could post updates about the game's progress. I get lots of messages there about the game but obviously I can only tell them what I know from what's posted online. It would be neat to have another member of the team there alongside HANA, helping to promote the game to more English speaking fans.

Anyway, thanks again for helping release such a great game! Good luck with the next chapters!

 No.1467

Just curious, will future releases of this game keep being for free?
I mean I got no problem with throwing in some money for production, it's VERY well invested ^^
I just have this feeling that this game is only getting such a good reception because it is for free and once that changes the reception will drastically change from supportive to raging hate.

 No.1470

>>1467
The game will remain free until the end.
However you will have to slowly follow the game till the end which includes the time of the original production plus ambassoon's translation time.

 No.1471

Btw I watched ppmaq in youtube playing the game. Just wondering anyone here find the scenes of the game too rapey? Not that it will change anything in the original production just wondering what people here thinks about it.

 No.1472

>>1471
he only played the current version, right?

 No.1476

>>1472
Yes the current english version.

 No.1477

>>1466

Thank you for your kind words! I have to give you some credit as well for following the game since it came out in Chinese and posting what updates you have for people to know about it.

Unfortunately, I don't use tumblr much asides from browsing. I will consider it and bring it up with the rest of the team, but for now I will be using this thread as the main source of my updates on the game.

>>1343

I'd estimate a month or so until the Chinese version of Chapter 2 is out, then give that two or three more months until the English one is out. I may need more time especially as I receive feedback, as I have learnt a lot from Chapter 1 translation, good and bad. I'll discuss this more.

>>1467

Yes, the team is planning to keep the game free. Most of it is done out of the team liking what we do, so I doubt that it'll ever be behind a paywall. That said, as it IS a free game, it will take longer than say, other professional games, especially since the team working on this game aren't professionals at all in the gaming field. Heck, I'm not even a trained translator! So please be patient with us.

>>1471

Yes, I've seen those episodes, and I do understand his qualms about the first few sex scenes. Truthfully, it may be in part to how…'harsh'…the English wording is for those segments. In Chinese, the phrasing isn't as 'non-consentual' while being extremely descriptive. I believe, in my attempt to keep the descriptive nature of the scenes, I may have overdone the 'rape' context a bit too much.

It also didn't help that ppmaq read the descriptions out-loud, which only emphasised the issue more. I may actually do that for my next translation attempt, just to make it flow easier and aware of contexts in speech, not just text.

I do need to thank ppmaq for bringing it to my attention though. He made me realise that my translation isn't what's right for me personally, but what is right for the audience we are aiming for. With that in mind, I will be making adjustments to some of the dialogue and text in chapter 1 that will carried over into chapter 2. As said, do forgive me for whatever errors/bad vibes that may have risen as a side effect of my translation.

With that being said, the context of the scene in question will remain the same. Bandit boss is defeated, refuses to give key, Scabbard slowly 'sexually' tortures him until he gives in. That scene is not meant to be romantic and it will not be.

Side Note: A change I'll be bringing up to the team about that I think most people will be happy about is the triple rats in the first map. Judging by the feedback I see around, those rats are definitely the bane of many a player's first run at the game.

Thank you all again for the support and feedback. I will do my best to minimise any errors or negative impressions that arise from the game, so please give it another chance!

 No.1478

>>1477

No problem, I really enjoy talking about the game.

If you do decide to start Tumblr for the game, please feel free to send me a message there if you like, and I'll make sure to spread the word. I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread here, and in the meantime if there's anything you'd like me to pass onto the fans on Tumblr, please let me know and I'll forward the information for you.

 No.1516

when is chapter 1.2 english coming out?

 No.1519

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Found this when replying. I didn't find any other things as mentioned in posts before. This isn't a big deal since it's just a red slime saying prob some weird stuff.

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Just wanted to say, I really REALLY like this game. Not just the porn or the beefcake, but the fact that it's also a legit RPG with a diverse, cool set of moves.

I beat the first chapter in a matter of hours. It would have been less time, but there was some loss involved.

My only gripe is that, at least for this first chapter, level grinding and gold farming are a bit difficult, which makes the solo boss fight between Kevin and the army of slimes a game of trial, error, and wasting ALL of my healing items.

(I appreciated being able to continue right where I left off though, that was very helpful!)

Otherwise I really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to the English release of the next part! Thanks to everyone involved for their hard work!

 No.1684

>>1682
Yeah the grind is there when trying to get money from bandits. I remember spending an hour just to get up to 30k gold to buy the equips/weapons. It actually made me too op ahahaha. What I did when I was grinding, was trying to get the MC to a level where he gets his best magic skill. Basically a 1 hit k.o almost, and it saves time grinding for gold.

 No.1712

Hello everyone.

HANA has given me an initial package of Chapter 2. It's still not complete in Chinese yet, but it looks like it won't be long until it is finished.

Looking through the data, I can confirm the following changes that will affect save files:

- Gien and Scabbard have new abilities. They learn them at different levels as well, so if you had grinded the party very high, you will miss these abilities.
- There will be a level cap imposed of lvl 40. At the moment, we are unsure if there will be negative side effects if your party is over lvl 40.
- There are several new items and also item changes. This means that your current items may either be replaced by another item, or removed entirely.
- Some character, weapon and armour parameters have been changed. This can either be problematic or a blessing depending on how far you have grinded.

These are the main changes that will affect past save files. There are many more changes to enemy parameters, drop rates, skill parameters etc, but those will not be affected by your save file.

One change most of you will be happy with: the very first rats in "Veiled Forest - Requiem" have been nerfed. You will no longer be stun locked like a bitch at Kevin lvl 3 and Gien lvl 1.

That's all for now.

 No.1719

>>1712
I think those rats were the games first level dungeons F.O.E.s because dam you get them right at your doorstep

 No.1755

>>1712
Ambassoon, Thanks for the news. Also I heard they will provide us with 2 savedatas of chapter1 with best options chosen for Gien and Scabbard so we don't have to start over right?

 No.1841

Did HANA said anything about how many chapters this Saga will have?

I'm enjoying this game so far. Send my regards to the development team! They rock!

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 No.1929

I must say I just discovered the game and quite enjoy it. Finished it in 2 days. I hope the second chapter comes out soon. The game was quite funny and stuff.What suprised me the most was the first sex scene with the flowers. It was so early in the game and so weird that it gave me really strange stuff that were fortunately false. For example I thought that the priest would reward Kevin by having sex with him as reward but I'm glad it was not the case .

My personal favorite for the scenes is the one with the captain of the mercenaries. I do not know why but I find myself so attracted to it despite being so weird. I know that it might be hard to do so, but make him appear again in another chapter either in a side quest or anything but at least please at least 1 more scene with him.

Talking about that scene, I seemed to notice many of you seemed to have trouble with the slime king ( which was not that hard ,really ).

Heres how i defeated him, if it helps :
I first chipped down his health and healed when needed (using his spell).
When the blue slime started appearing, i used his V-slash ( or whatever it is called ) to remove them from play. Then I used Goring Blade on the boss ( Goring Blade is soooo good ) (I tend to hoard TP so, im always above 70 TP for Kevin and 100TP for Gein ). Goring blade on the boss resulted in a terrifying scene. Well he spawned 4 slimes, 2 green ,2 red. Since i did nkt have Gein with me, i decided to use that blinding stone ( 2nd time Im using an item in and the game .1st time was also this stone ). That thing annihiated the 4 slimes and blinded the boss. Fortunately i had enoigh TP for another goring blade and the fight was done.

Now concerning difficulty and battles. I believe the difficulty curve is quite steep until you are done with the thief hideout. Myself, after a battle, i had to rest at its bonfire everytime after a battle, sometimes if i were lucky i could do two fights and thats it.However things get a little easier when Gien has enough MP to deal with a good amount of monsters without resting or using an item and when Kevin learns Succor.

But still its a really great game. I woukd really like more content whenever possible but don't rush, i know the devs have lives too.

-BB

 No.1930

How about the english version of the chapter 2 ?

 No.1931

>>1930
Give or take another 2-3 months after the Chinese release.
The translator already commented on that a few lines above in this thread.

 No.1957

how come when i push Start Game the game become not responding at all to let me play… any solution?

 No.1958

>>1957
Just do the usual that's required when playing a Japanese game on non-japanese system.
Also makes sure that you got everything necessary for running RPG Ace

 No.2004

OMG OMG OMG guys funa's just announced about his sequel Chin Chin Quest II on his twitter. Somebody should make a thread about it XD OMG I'm so hyped right now!!!!

 No.2005

>>2004
calm down
moritake also tweeted about his new game. both are still in the works with no indication whatsoever about when a release might be possible

 No.2019

I've just finished playing The end of dreams and I' ve to say that I LOVE this game.
I really want the second chapter to come out in little time

 No.2023

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Some specific person who will appear in the game…eh hm…Hoped you can guess who he is. (I think I know…)

 No.2024

>>2023

No hints from me! Just a brief update from me; Chapter 2 is still going through some development due to the release of some new extensions for the engine as well as some unfinished scenes. It'll come soon however, so please be patient for a bit longer.

 No.2025

>>2023
>>2024

Oh, that guy is a character from the game? When I saw that pic on Tumblr, I used some translation software and I saw it mentioned The End of Dreams, but I thought it might just be an old character concept HANA was adapting. (The fact that there's modern day vehicles in the background threw me off too.) If he is going to be in the game, then I definitely have a guess as to who he is too.

And thanks ambassoon for the update! I'm really looking forward to the next chapter, even though the English version is a ways off still. I love seeing all the new artwork and characters.

 No.2032

when will be the second chapter released?

 No.2033

>>2032
it will be this summer (but apparently no fixed release date) and the english version will be around 2-3 months after the release.

 No.2035

yey
thanks a lot

 No.2037

Just want to say how super appreciative I am for the creators and translators to deliver the game in English. I had played the game in its original language first (using an auto-translate) first, but playing it a second time being able to read in English was far more enjoyable. I wish other artists like Funa (Chin-Chin Quest) would one day be kind enough to add an English localization.

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 No.2044

>>2041
yum who are these hot hunks?

 No.2045

>>2044
the new charatcters for chapter 2

 No.2052

>>1088


Ambassoon I would like to PM you but I couldn't find a PM function on a board like this? Is there an email or something I could contact you with? :)

 No.2053

>>2045
I know, I mean what are their names?

 No.2057

>>2053

(From left to right.)
Gien Tovwel, Kevin, Kurur Wach
Paeggivorm, unknown, unknown
Scabbard, Victorinne, unknown

All the "unknown" characters are brand new to Chapter 2, as are Paeggivorm and Kurur Wach.

 No.2067

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this is his BLOG photo
he said chapter2 will come out in the end of july

 No.2070

>>2052

I've set one up for any queries people may have now. Please try not to spam it with emails asking for a schedule or when it'll be out, as I'll be updating that information on this thread. Spam in general wouldn't be nice, would it.

eodamb@gmail.com

 No.2079

>>1929

I too thought the reward for the priest quest was a sex scene and was disappointed

 No.2080

>>1929
yes I wish I could see the captain's face, and hope for more slime H scenes! Let the slime king comes back XD

 No.2081

Hoping for a release around Comiket, which means 3-5 weeks. Might that be possible?

 No.2114

>>2081
he is chinese
comiket is not his business

 No.2115

>>2114
I just asked because it would be great to add this new chapter release to all those other delicious new releases xD

besides
Mind you, even artists from outside of Japan take part at Comiket, even Chinese sometimes ;)

 No.2120

ambassoon, do you know anything about Hana's other game? Black Deer Village I think it's called? There doesn't seem to be much about it online, but the promo image looks hot.

Really excited for chapter #2 of Dreams. Loooooved the first one.

 No.2121

>>2120
What? There's another new project while the main project isn't even done?
I sense upcoming disaster

 No.2123

Where can I buy the game? It's amazing, I want to contribute.

 No.2125

>>2121

All there is for it is a promo image. There's been nothing else shown, so we don't know how far along it is. And HANA is already contributing his art to other projects besides The End of Dreams and everything is turning out fine. Don't worry.

 No.2126

>>2125
Well we'll see if this project manages to be an exception then

 No.2144

>>2121
>>2126

wew lad slow down whatever you're smoking

 No.2150

>>2144
You must be relatively new to all of this.
But don't worry, it's fine though.

 No.2153

>>2150
nah, I just don't consider an "upcoming disaster" if some eroge or another doesn't come out. tho I agree: it's pretty fine to not have my world shattered by such a small thing. wouldn't want it any different tbqh.

 No.2164

Can someone please post their save data for the eng version. I kinda of los the ones I had , and don[t fell like playing the whole game again.

 No.2167

>>2164
Doesn't matter for act 2 we have to replay act 1 'cause you can't port the save over. Well you can but it'll be wonky they said.

 No.2179

You don't have to start over, act 2 comes with savedatas of Gien higher favor and Scab higher favor(which you can use to continue the journey with.)

 No.2180

>>2179
Yeah, but some people may have spent time grinding the bandits for gold (I know I did, not like it matters much but still).

 No.2201

shouldn't the new chapter be out already?

 No.2223

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>>2201
his said sorry that he will go on a journey with his parents in August .the chapter 2 will come about September

 No.2430

Any update?

 No.2432

>>2430
lol so typical
message said "in september", but of course people already ask at what, 2nd or 3rd day of the month.

 No.2434

>>2432
what's wrong with you? seriously what's your problem? did you get bullied during your school period so that's why you act as a total asshole now?
God, why is the point in being so rude and so unpleasant?

 No.2435

>>2434
He got sand in his vagina, that's why.

 No.2440

>>2434
>>2435
woah such a huge reaction at some anon just stating the truth and obvious. wonder who's having a problem…
just calm your titties gents the next game will surely be out sooner than you think

 No.2443

Not mod but come on, no need to start attacking people.
>>2434
Your reaction is just way out there.
>>2432
This person's response with the "lol so typical" is referring to type of behavior people keep showing when they want something but being ungrateful (may or may not be wrong, just assuming). Yes this may be construed as being an insult or even something more, but no need to start attacking the person. Besides, the game is free. Unlike most things shared here with a paywall of some kind to purchase it, just be patient with it. It'll be out eventually.

 No.2475

So, any news yet?

 No.2523

Isn't the version 2 will be released last Sept 20? or was it move again?

 No.2530

The creator has a twitter now if you guys didn't know. Maybe they'll post news on it there.

https://twitter.com/ijikonohanaya

 No.2531

I don't know chinese or japanese very well,
but I understood that the game isn't ready yet because they're working on adding new functions and on other games

 No.2546

Any update?

 No.2547

Looking to be friendly with the Dev for this project. Canadian game dev here. Our project is a bit more tame but may be of interest to you. Please contact me @ sevensagesrecruitment@gmail.com

 No.2552

I hope this won't get delayed much longer.

Oh well, the good stuff is always worth waiting for I suppose!

 No.2569

Who have the link end of dream chaper 2 please sent to blitzchenz@gmail.com

 No.2571

>>2569
I don't see why it can't be posted here instead

 No.2572

>>2569

Err.. Its not even out yet?

 No.2575

any updates?

 No.2595

has this project been dropped?

 No.2597

>>2595

No, it's just not ready yet. The artist behind it has other projects they're involved with too. Patience.

 No.2600

Do we know how long this chapter is compared to the first one?

 No.2604

it's tell me release about Summer , then change to about July , then change to about September …. now… October… still Nothing…

 No.2605

no limit time for waiting

 No.2606

The game is being released completely for free. It'll be ready when it's ready.

Plus, it's coming out in Chinese first anyway, so if you're not fluent, you're going to be waiting a while still regardless. Everyone relax.

 No.2623

anyone knows if he gave a new release date window ?

 No.2624

any new news?

 No.2630

He has not. He has been relatively quiet for the past month or so with the exception of the other game he is working on

 No.2631

The artist just posted a new character portrait on one of their social media pages today, so things are still progressing.

 No.2697

Any news??

 No.2720

The artist for the game, (Hana) has a tumblr page with an ask function. If you want some more info, try sending him a message. (Politely of course.)

http://konohanaya.tumblr.com

 No.2751

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>part 2 never ever

Someone please hold me.

 No.2755

ambassoon, if you still check here, any news you could share?

 No.2801


 No.2914

update?

 No.2915

I think chapter 2 will be release next year..

 No.2916

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From Hana's twitter, Gien as sexy Santa. Hope C.2 is released soon.

https://twitter.com/ijikonohanaya

 No.3128

2017…. still doesn't released

 No.3150

>>3128
Well, if its any consolation, you know what they say, a delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever

 No.3360

>>3150
>What is Mighty No. 9?

 No.3374

Any news?

 No.3442

wait for good game forever !!!! wait wait wait forever !!!!!!

 No.3445

It's 2017 and no game…

 No.3449

>>3445
No.3150 tell to us … "we must wait for a good game forever."

 No.3454

Aww, poor guys can't wait to fap for this.

 No.3470

>>3454
fap por mung a !!
kwai kuy kak

 No.3506

any updates?

 No.3523

>>3506
ืno updates

 No.3537

Any news?

 No.3651

Any updates or news?

 No.3657


 No.3671

his twitter is lost… ??

 No.3673

This is his twitter but still no news.
https://twitter.com/Konohanaya

 No.3679

This is from konohanaya's tumblr
"《梦境之末》第二章——行之章,今年5月1日更新。"
Google Translate gave me this
"The end of the dream" Chapter II - chapter of the chapter, this year on May 1 update.
So maybe we'll have it by May 1st if there is no more delay.

 No.3680

Yeah I saw that he posted on tumblr it will be here May 1st! <3

 No.3681

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It's happening boys!

 No.3683

I'm so pumped for CH 2. I hope the English version is released soon after the Chinese one.

 No.3690

Are the people who translated chapter one still planning to translate chapter 2

 No.3748

could someone please upload good savefiles? pls??

 No.3774

is this project dead?

 No.3776

>>3774
Did you even read the thread? Part 2's coming out in May.

 No.3848


 No.3850

I Think it says that we can't use save data from ch.1 for the new, but we will find it more complete and with more features

 No.3857

Hi everyone!

It's been awhile since I've commented on this thread, but I finally can post here again. For those who have been checking HANA's tumblr, we are indeed releasing the Chinese version of End of Dreams: Chapter 2 in the beginning of May, with HANA conveniently having a countdown!

We are right now nailing through all the potential bugs and making sure that the Chinese version is smooth sailing; after that would be when I start the translation. The English version will thus be further away than the Chinese, but I ask for your patience and support from all the team.

HANA is posting a few tidbits every day on his tumblr about what is new with this upcoming chapter. So far he has revealed a new character (Rolend Heinz), new content for not just chapter 2 but also chapter 1 (including new CGs, extended dialogue, more cutscenes), a way to playback unlocked CGs from the main menu as well as a brief introduction to a new playeable character: Kuruc Wach. Please follow his tumblr as the date approaches!

We thank you for the long wait, and hope you enjoy the game when it releases!

 No.3858

Sorry, I forgot to change my name from being anonymous. Please look forward to release!

 No.3862

>>3857
Will it take around a month or two for the update to be released?

And with this new download, does that mean that we're getting part 1 attached to part 2 or what?

Thanks for the update, though.

 No.3863

>>3862

I'd try to get the English version done within a month of the Chinese release. It'll be much faster than the release of the English version due to me being on-board the team for the development of Chapter 2 as opposed to translating Chapter 1 some time after it was released.

Chapter 1 will be attached to Chapter 2. In fact, there's new updates to Chapter 1 with story, CG, dialogue, items and some skill changes as well, so it's highly recommended to start a new game instead of using a save file from Chapter 1.

 No.3866

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The Game is finally out! and aparently is free!!! check the twitter acount https://twitter.com/Konohanaya/status/858717137648603136. btw im stuck in the jail after you save the priest because i don't speak chinese if someone manage to get through please share how to make it :3

 No.3867

For the prison part, keep failing til lthe priest help out lol

 No.3868

can someone post all the new CGs

 No.3869

>>3863

Thanks for the update ambassoon! I'm really looking forward to the enhanced re-release of Chapter 1, and Chapter 2! Good luck. :)

 No.3870

wait for English version O_O

 No.3871

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Does anyone know how to get pass here?

 No.3872

Go left til lyou find a temple, then head south till you find a "whole lil statue" and then talk to it

 No.3873

>>3872
Thank you

 No.3874

ur welcome o/

 No.3875

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Can someone help me with these 3 CGs..cant seem to figure where they are or how to trigger them xD

 No.3876

>>3875
>Can someone help me with these 3 CGs..cant seem to figure where they are or how to trigger them xD

haha the same, I ended up with situation like you. missing exact 3 CG. I tried different choices but I cannot phatom how to get these last 3.
>>3875
>Can someone help me with these 3 CGs..cant seem to figure where they are or how to trigger them xD

 No.3878

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I got all CG, for those 3 ones missing … 2 you can get in that lake you found the guy on water and the another you just have to choose the second option in the end of the game

 No.3886

Does Gavin has to be in party?
cuz tried several times, with him in party i see the ripple but cant "
talk to it"
without him: i tried different options and getting "killed" by the shadow thingy.
none workedxD

 No.3887

i'm missing the last CG only, not sure what that one is =o
AND I WANT MY ELF BACK!

 No.3888

>>3878
What exactly do you do or choose for the water lake guy though? I've collected everything there after killing the shadow.

 No.3890

For the water guy, once you get the mage back in your group, leave the area and go back there again, and go to the water part, then a new "chat" will appear

 No.3891

>>3888
Oh nevermind. You had to go back after saving the catguy.

 No.3892

>>3890
Oh, okay. Thanks. I just popped up in a new map.

 No.3893

Where exactly to touch lake guy?
I get to the part where his dick is semi erect but always fail in getting him naked ><

 No.3894

Dude, be a bit curious? xD
Touch all over hes body, when hes dick starts full hard/leaking jsut stroke it up and down

 No.3896

Dude! I touched him more than I ever touched a man/woman in my life xD
Problem is transitioning from semi hard to hard lol.. Cant get a man hard sml

 No.3897

K, let's see, did you touch hes abs? each side of the chests? each legs?( knees?calfs?) feets both? ass? armpit? shoulders?mouth?thighs?biceps? forearms? like…everypart of him is touchebles, even those you would never think of lol hahaa

 No.3898

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basically, this

 No.3899

and yeah…sometimes you can repeat the touch xD

 No.3900

Touched all of them xD.. Dunno what I'm doing wrong lol

 No.3901

Will try all of them in one go xD

 No.3902

Touch the cock more times? maybe? you can hear the moan once he enjoys xD so touch everything again hahaha

 No.3903

Thank you, finally managed to get him hard xD

 No.3904

congrats o/ and ur welcome haha

 No.3910

Do you know when English version will be released ?

 No.3911

if you head north from the purple pentagram in the desert, there's a purple bauble you can push down to it. Once you place it on the pentagram, a boss spawns. I haven't been able to do this AND beat the boss in under 5 mins… Has anyone done this before?

Also, I randomly went and visited one of the old forests after you lose Scabbard (green dude), and he came back in the party… I think this is a glitch, lol but he's with me for the last battle of Chapter 2.

 No.3914

Yes about the elf it's a glitch and about the boss, i didn't know that =o i may try later.
i wanted to seek the elf since i saw an art of the guy of him being raped by a gang, by thats about it, was only a art i think or maybe for chapter 3? xD
English version? was not mentioned but perhaps ham…a month after the release? hopefully?

 No.3915

The glitch regarding the…recruitment…of Scabbard has been found and fixed for the English release. And we actually went and tried debugging the game before the Chinese release, and missed perhaps the biggest bug of all. We apologise for the bug.

 No.3916

does anyone have a save

 No.3918

what the chapter2.1 ??
it's same be chapter 2.0.

 No.3927

i don't know why i can't open the game.
it's go to select mode and i press button it's show up something (sound/decision3) and close instantly.

 No.3928

^^^
by the way i can open game ver.1 but 2.0 and 2.1 i can't

 No.3930

can someone post the new cgs?

 No.3931

YES someone post the new cgs!

 No.3933

Please spoiler all the CGs. Most are waiting to play the english game in a few weeks.

 No.3940

It's amusing seeing people post asking for help to obtain CGs on here, but are blacking out. Asking without wanting to give anything. Selfish much? :P

 No.3941

i'm too lazy…each scene has like… 3 stages, if people just want the final stage i would post, but all 3 of each one? D: oh god… i'm too lazy for that..i will try….

 No.3942

God i forgot some scenes have 5 stages -.-

 No.3943

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5 scenes for now (i'm new around, do i have to click on the spoiler there > ?)

 No.3944

Oh…only 3 on 3? lol gosh this wil ltake FOREVER! anyone know somewhere i can post then all? O.o

 No.3945

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Oh….well…i will finish this scene at least

 No.3946

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 No.3947

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 No.3948

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 No.3949

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 No.3950

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 No.3951

Really, i'm sorry, i won't keep posting all here cuz each scenes has from 4 to 5 stages….so if anyone know another way, tell here and i will try to see xD

 No.3952

Still missing 32 pictures btw, and….i don't have the last one unlocked :o

 No.3953

>>3952

Couldn't you just put all the images on a folder in a Drive to share or post them on a gallery?

 No.3954

Like i said, i'm newbie to this "gallery shit" lol
and Btw, i unlocked the last image xD awesome one, can't wait for part 3

 No.3955

a sec and i will give a link for a dropbox =D

 No.3956

Someone give it a shot please? if dosen't work i will post a mediafire link, easyer T_T

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hpvfy2w6awq40fs/AAAot0LoAtoj7ImQA2gCf6_Ba?dl=0

 No.3957


 No.3959

>>3957

It works quite well, thank you very much, is the last scene included in this batch?

 No.3960

Yes yes, the last scene is the guy with purple hair, and ufff, i'm glad it works xD

 No.3961

>>3960

Cool, I was wondering about that because I remembered seeing a preview of like a scene with Scabbard and wasn't sure if he had just spoiled from Chapter 3.

 No.3962

that "preview" you mean the art the owner did of him being raped by alot of bandits? i saw that too but it dosen't show in there sadly…definitly on chapter 3

 No.3963

Or it was jsut a art? i'm not sure….he's tumblr is all in chinease and all it said there wasn't related to the end of dreams at all, but we will need to wait till chap 3 to come out to know for sure! o/

 No.3965

>>3963

I think it will most definitely appear on Chapter 3 and it will have to do with the reason why Scabbard isn't on the main group, you know, considering he isn't on the cover image and it seems he and that red-headed beast-man have similar abilities.

 No.3966

He mostly definitly will show up on chapter 3 since he…well…i won't spoil but something happend there, and the bandit do hold somethign agaisnt him….but i dunno, we gonna have to wait anyway…can't wait for it >.>

 No.3967

>>3966

Well, I do think most people in here can perfectly guess what will happen but still, it's fun to pay a bit of attention to the story. Main reason why I haven't played Chapter 2 yet.

 No.4000

guys can you gave me a website of chapter 2 English version please… i dont know where im confused of reading all of the chat…i really love this game <3 im stuck in chap 1 and i dont know where can i get chap 2
and chapt will release i cant wait to play this game…. please ill gave my ^_^ B_DY and gave me chap 2 hehehe i hope theres someone that can help me

 No.4003

>>4000

Sorry dude, but so far Chapter 2 has only been released in its original language, the english version will come soon enough tho.

 No.4017

So there's no English version of cahapter 2… 😱😰😭 is there another way? I mean i want and really want to play this im not a Chinese im a Phil… Is there an application for translating games… Im hoping that theres an app that you can suggest me?… Even if the translation is something weird, ill try to understand it hehehe… Can you please link me the address of Chinese version chapter 2? Please….

And btw thanks Anonymous for your reply 💟<3💟 a hearr for you dude…

 No.4020

>>4017

Hey, you can download Chapter 2 from the author's Konohanaya official account on tumblr: http://www.konohanaya.tumblr.com/

Also, don't worry that much the translation is already on its way here, soon you'll be able to play it in English.

 No.4021

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Thank you Anonymous for being such kind to me… I cant Wait to play this nice game, this game is freaking me out when I'm in GYM doing some workout, "UH! I CANT WAIT!" but i believe that "Patients is a Virtue" k then Ill wait hehehe,

btw sir Anonymous… add me in gmail please, ill pm my fb name, im just having fun with the cool guys…
kaitononilon@gmail.com - thats my gmailacc

 No.4022

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还有7天梦末第二章·行之章就要更新了,从今天开始每天透露一点线索!(炒热度)
今天公布一位新角色,头发是闪亮的基佬紫~(其他保密,他在游戏里会出现得有些隐蔽,大家要仔细寻找哦) ​​​​

please can you trans late this one hahaha somethings new here…

http://konohanaya.tumblr.com/

 No.4023

>>4022

That's just some info regarding the new chapter's characters, in this particular case it seems as though the only thing revealed about the character was his name. For the most part, Konohanaya simply posts images in his Tumblr but she will post any new information regarding the game in there as well so pay attention :D

 No.4026

Konohanaya is a woman????

 No.4027

Oh lol same. I didn't know konohanaya was a woman? Not that is a problem or anything I just assumed she was a man.

 No.4032

does any1know how to get scabberd back in the party after u lose him ive checked all the wood areas no luck since did the bug get fixed

 No.4083

Any update on the English release of part two ambasson??

 No.4090

>>4083
about 1 month after chinese version released and may be delay.

 No.4093

>>4090
Its been a month so thats why I asked. Is it still on schedule ?

 No.4113

Anyone knows when the english version is going to be released?

 No.4129

still waiting on the english version… Why can't Brits or American's make good bara games

 No.4159

ambasoon??? any news for the chapter 2 english version… finished the chinese version took me 4-5 days just to finished it w/o even understanding things hehehe thanks for the post in this thread they are really helpful thanks guys, Good job for the creators as well very good Bara game its just my cup of tea!!!

 No.4256

hopes for july

 No.4264

I wish the english version would come out soon :( I think I saw a post that said within a month of the original release but I guess thats passed now. Hopefully soon though :)

 No.4267

it's alreasy two months thought

 No.4268

*already

 No.4275

I want to wait, because I found this game last year and I really loved it at first look.
I think waiting for this isn't that bad if you consider that this game is really good and free

 No.4319

I don't mind waiting at all, I'd just like to know what the general status of the translation is.

 No.4322

i'd like too

 No.4323

just knowing when it will be released is ok

 No.4328

Ambasoon stated at the end of May that the translation is being delayed due to life issues and exams and volume of work. Fortunately, he (she?) is still committed to releasing it. He did not want to release it yet because it would not be at the level of quality he would want from a translation.

 No.4329

oh, sorry, I didn't know that.
Now we can only wait for him the time when things get better

 No.4330

>>4328

Can I ask where you read/heard that?

 No.4332

>>4330 On the other thread about the game : http://boards.barachan.org/doujin/res/3877.html

 No.4376

any updates for the translation anywhere?

 No.4445

So still no updates?

 No.4447

PUUULEEEEEEAASSEEEEE ME WANT DA ENGALISH VERSEON!!!!!! A RELEASE DATE???

 No.4456

Let's face it. It's either going to be early Sept or early Oct. I understand it's free, so we should be patient. Still, please, no false hope.

 No.4483

I'm not entirely new to this site, but since when I discovered it I still don't know if there is a way to search for a specific game on the threads, aside from browsing by genre. The thing is, I want to know if anyone can tell me the release date of this game named Full Service that was supposed to be released in july but is still in the works. I tried taking a look at its official kickstarter and tumblr pages but there is no release date shown aside from the july one. Here's the kickstarter page link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/516439480/full-service-bl-yaoi-gay-game-dating-sim-visual-no?ref=project_link

I know this is off topic, like I said I tried searching for this game here but couldn't find a way to, if anyone can tell me the right way to make this kind of questions please tell me so I won't post off topic messages again in the future =(

 No.4488

As regards to Full Service, they have just taken July (Summer) out of the their site.

I would say not to expect it until either the end of winter (hopefully) or just go with my expectation. Spring or next summer.

 No.4818

just wondering, are there updates?



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